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Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.25 23:27:00 - [1] During the initial patch downtime, I was so annoyed by the changes I wrote a little vb.net application to modify the registry keys for the User Shell folder paths for a few seconds while I launched the eve client. It read the real value, reads the eve path from a settings file, replaces it then runs the relevant eve instance with the /end /LUA:OFF before putting it back to normal a few seconds later. I just click on a button and wait 10 seconds before launching the next one. Only have to remeber to launch eve with it and if it restarts itself after a disconnect. While the change might be to meet the vista requirements, I think the whole storage system for eve could have done with an overhaul first to make it viable to change.
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.26 00:04:00 - [2] Originally by: CCP Explorer Edited by: CCP Explorer on 25/06/2007 23:58:00 You're absolutely right here. If you are only connecting to Tranquility then you can and I would recommend that you use a single client. The EVE client handles multiple accounts (and therefore 3x multiple characters) and you don't need to make any changes from the default install so long as you are only connecting to Tranquility. The only settings that are then being shared between the accounts are the audio settings and the main program window settings. Only if you are connecting to our test servers, Singularity or Multiplicity, then you need multiple clients, since those server are running different versions than Tranquility. But then you also have to use "/end /LUA:OFF" or examine this thread (a re-direct approach to multiple clients) or this thread (a "multiple Windows users, set 'run with different credentials' for each client" approach to multiple clients; top part of post) to keep the clients separate. Which is exactly why we were forced to make this change. The data and settings files should never have been stored in the Program Files folder anyway (not even on Windows 2000 and Windows XP). Windows Vista enforces that programs don't write into the Program Files folder and Windows Vista users are by now a sizeable part of the EVE community. We didn't have much choice in making this change. I know you can run multiple clients from a single folder. The reason I never did was to keep my Chatlogs and Gamelogs seperate to each account/character. With them now all in the same location, I don't see how you can describe EVE as supporting multiple accounts, as it doesn't let you choose the log location. Why not a seperate capture/log folder for each character? That would solve everything when combined with the /end /LUA:OFF.
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 21:23:00 - [3] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Apertotes ok, lots of helpful replies. i just would like to know one thing. even with those esoteric commands (/end /LUA:OFF), EVE keeps creating a folder on "My documents" for logs and captures. it seems there is a solution to this using a little program. is there any other way? i am not going to use a program from someone i do not know and that isnt sanctioned by CCP, so, if any dev is watching, any way to refrain EVE from creating a folder on "My documents"? Originally by: Jitagirl For the crybabies that whine about the EVE folder in my documents (Thinking before complaining is hard) runeve.bat Quote: eve.exe /end /LUA:OFF DON'T RUN THISrd /q /s "%USERPROFILE%\My Documents\EVE" DON'T RUN THISrd /q /s might wipe half of your partition if you have admin rights and are careless. (my green) That would delete your logs after every time you run Eve. That's bad mojo! Please use this to keep your installations' logs files (and caches) separate. --P The script only affects the location of the Cache folder, which is then ignored by starting EVE with the LUA:OFF anyway. Logs and capture still end up in My Documents path which is read directly from the registry, setting an environmental variable doesn't affect this location. Use procmon and you can see the reg keys being read. All this seems to do is copy a moved cache back and start EVE. If you just want seperate installs then have multiple EVE folders and start them with the /end /LUA:OFF nothing more to it. Want seperate log/capture folders and you are going to have to alter the reg keys.
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Pilk I'm sorry, but that's incorrect. My script moves it all, baby! Where?
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 23:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Nobues Edited by: Nobues on 27/06/2007 22:10:22 dude your are all missing one key point, dont edit crap you dont have to spend hours of programming to fix anything, you dont have to go out and spend 1000000 bucks on new hardware.. JUST CLEAR YOUR OLD DAMN CACHE DELETE the folder it self.. Oh OMG WOW!!! FIXED.. read people read.. stop being stupid. edit: before you say it doenst work TRY IT.. stupid people who dont need to play eve. JUST DELETE OLD CACHE FOLDER AND IT FIX'S ALL! Essentially this is all thats needed to fix EVE+SISI clients. When you use the LUA option and delete the cache from Local Settings, everything should be fine. In fact, if you just add the LUA to both, you don't even need to delete the cache as they will start with a blank one back in their own directories or whatever was left there. I am mostly interested in Having muiltiple accounts running that log to seperate folders which was fine before the change.
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 00:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Nobues Originally by: Windle Poons Originally by: Nobues Edited by: Nobues on 27/06/2007 22:10:22 dude your are all missing one key point, dont edit crap you dont have to spend hours of programming to fix anything, you dont have to go out and spend 1000000 bucks on new hardware.. JUST CLEAR YOUR OLD DAMN CACHE DELETE the folder it self.. Oh OMG WOW!!! FIXED.. read people read.. stop being stupid. edit: before you say it doenst work TRY IT.. stupid people who dont need to play eve. JUST DELETE OLD CACHE FOLDER AND IT FIX'S ALL! Essentially this is all thats needed to fix EVE+SISI clients. When you use the LUA option and delete the cache from Local Settings, everything should be fine. In fact, if you just add the LUA to both, you don't even need to delete the cache as they will start with a blank one back in their own directories or whatever was left there. I am mostly interested in Having muiltiple accounts running that log to seperate folders which was fine before the change. I run 4 accounts 1 computer I have changed nothing but deleted my own cache folders and I can run all 4 clients, with different setting, and WOW they stay I dont have to reset them everytime.. Like I said try it before posting.. I didn't say that they don't run. They all put their chat and game logs into one folder. I have kept my chat logs seperate for each account, I still want them seperate. As far as cache folders go, if you put the LUA:OFF in before running any upgraded client or test client then you wouldn't have to do anything else or even lose a single setting, I didn't.
Windle Poons Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.28 00:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Windle Poons Originally by: Pilk I'm sorry, but that's incorrect. My script moves it all, baby! Where? Check the link; it's a screenshot of where it moves your logs. --P Where in the script does it move the logs? How does it move them? I can tell you that their location is not affected by the Userprofile path, I tried that weeks ago. As I have nothing in my Local Settings (they are all using the LUA option), it did nothing.

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